This is (very) incomplete, and ongoing. I began it very late in sixth season,
and am slowly going back and filling in holes.
If you've got suggestions, I'm happy to hear
about them, as always.
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- Major Warren (2nd season, Prisoners),
Sgt. Warren (3rd season, Foothold -- I assumed this was a rank error,
and listed this under Major Warren), Major Lawrence (5th season, Menace
and Sentinel) -- all played by Colin Lawrence.
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- Medals:
- Jack wears at least two different sets of medals.
- In first season (Children of the Gods), there are no Vietnam medals,
which makes sense given his canonical birth year of 1947 -- the last
Vietnam war medal that he could have been given was granted no later
than early 1973, when Jack would have been 16 years old, and far too
young to have served at all, let alone long enough to earn a medal.
This set also includes a marksmanship medal (given Jack's accuracy
with weapons, this seems likely) and an AF training ribbon.
- As of second season, the marksmanship medal and training ribbon
are gone, and he wears a Vietnam service medal and a Republic of Vietnam
campaign medal. (He also adds the Air Medal that he was granted in
Secrets.) This set can be seen here
-- while it's the one he wears most often, it's the one that makes
the least amount of sense given his age.
- Sam was given the Air Medal for heroism in 1998 (Secrets); prop
canon inconsistency in that it doesn't later appear on her uniform. (Sam's
medals)
- Jacob appears to be the most underdecorated general of all time; I'm
not sure how he made it to general with so few medals, and apparently
no devices on any of the ones he has. (Jacob's
medals)
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- Internal continuity glitch: Sam, Janet, and Teal'c (carrying the unconscious
Jack) walked down a corridor past a door clearly marked Level 25 (restricted
access - door used earlier in the ep), then continued down the same corridor
to the C-2 door to the gateroom -- on level 28.
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- Canon glitch: Teal'c refers to Nirrti as "he".
- At the abandoned nuclear facility, Jack, standing on level 1, says Sam
will be going down 30 floors; the elevator brings her down to level 28, as
though she were still at the SGC.
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- Canon glitch: when Lya is coming through from the Nox homeworld, the technician
counts off the chevrons as they engage. On in incoming wormhole, all chevrons
are supposed to engage at the same time.
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- Canon glitch: The stargate on Hadante lit up one chevron at a time for incoming
wormholes, rather than lighting up all at once as it should have done. (Prisoners)
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- Teal'c calls the world PJ7-989; Carter later calls it P7J-989 (more likely
to be right, since it follows the traditional naming pattern) (Gamekeeper)
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- Editing glitch: When Daniel is explaining what the writing on the ziggurat's
door says, he says "it's just a standard retelling of the Babylonian
creation myth" and goes to explain that Marduk slew Tiamat and used the
two halves of her body to form the sky and earth. Major Vallarin asked "how
does that happen" and Daniel explained that only the priests would see
the anomalies in the retelling that made it possible to see where to push
to open the door, and demonstrated by doing so -- but he'd never mentioned
any anomalies, and Vallarin's question appeared to be about how Marduk could
have used Tiamat's body to form anything. Clearly, they cut out a bit of the
dialogue here.
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- Where did the trinium mine come from? It's never been mentioned before (or
since, as of the end of sixth season), and something like that is huge for
the SGC. We should know who found it, where, what the general circumstances
surrounding it were. We should at least have evidence that Area 51 is using
more trinium in its experiments.
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- McKay was working with a virtual model that was built when the second gate
was at Area 51.
- When exactly was the model built, and by whom? The gate was originally
supposed to have arrived sealed up, and the second time it was sealed
almost immediately with SG-1 in attendance.
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I am flatly convinced that this entire episode, barring the very last minute
in the lab, was a MarySue fantasy on the part of Felger. In Full Circle,
Jack made some references that made it appear that Other Guys was actually
canon, but I still can't bring myself to believe it; I believe that some of
the events of the ep may have happened offscreen, and that Felger reworked them
into his own fantasy, which is what we saw. Given that, I have no idea how much
of it was and wasn't taken from reality, so there's not much I can do about
putting it into the reference page. Here's why (this is rather personally slanted,
obviously!):
- The credits.
- The opening scenery during the credits uses the Vorash landscape, which
is extremely distinctive (unlike other planetary landscapes that get recycled
a lot, to the best of my memory we've never seen those rock formations
anywhere else), with just a few changes tacked on. I find it extremely
hard to believe that they decided what the hell, let's toss them onto
another planet now. They were a tip-off. I figure Felger kept looking
at "alien" landscapes that looked like North American forests and deserts,
and latched onto pictures of Vorash as distinctively alien looking, and
used that to paint his mental landscape.
- Crystals.
- The crystals in the ring transporter at the beginning were completely
wrong. The colors were off, and they looked like air-brushed holograms
(that lit up/appeared one by one, sheesh), rather than hard-edged actual
crystals. Felger was probably working on theoretical ring research, and
had never actually seen a ring transporter with his own eyes, let along
actual Goa'uld crystal technology, so was mentally extrapolating from
mission and science reports. Close, but no cigar.
- Ring transporter.
- No one on board the ship noticed that the ring transporter was being
used (the signals are trackable, and none of the Jaffa were using the
extremely old rings, so someone should have picked up on the fact that
there were intruders on board -- but there were no search parties looking
for them). No one noticed that someone shot up the ring room, either.
(Granted, this is the iffiest bit of "proof", since it's never certain
when Jaffa will actually show up -- but it adds to my conviction.)
- Air vents.
- I absolutely, positively, refuse to believe that there are huge
air vents running alongside the holding cells on any Goa'uld vessel, and
especially that those air vents can be accessed by simply lifting a screen
out of place, apparently without so much as loosening a bolt. There's
just no way. And if they were standard issue, why would SG-1 never
have discovered this? None of them are likely to have failed to check
for possible escape routes. Or why would Teal'c not have known about it
in the first place? Plus, if the vents do exist, and the shoji-screen
covers are as sound-permeable as we're shown, why didn't any Jaffa notice
Felger and Coombs wandering about and bickering? They weren't exactly
unobtrusive. Finally, if those vents exist, Jack and Teal'c should just
go die in shame now, for having sat in a basically identical cell during
Revelations waiting for the captured Thor to set them free, rather
than shifting a simple, lightweight screen and freeing themselves. (The
ship in OG was sent out for the express purpose of capturing enemies,
so presumably it had what the Goa'uld and Jaffa considered appropriate
holding facilities, so it can't have been a fluke on that one ship.)
- Jaffa.
- The Jaffa who ran into Felger and Coombs on the planet completely ignored
the fact that Coombs was wearing glasses, even though there's no way he
could ever have seen such a contraption, and certainly not on a Jaffa
warrior. "Coombs" even went to the trouble of not wearing them to ring
down to the planet and begin the walk away -- then after putting them
on, he failed to take them off before turning to face the Jaffa. Felger
lost track of that detail in his fantasy, too busy setting his friend
up to be the nervous wreck as he managed to shoot the bad guy himself.
- Jonas.
- Jonas, who has an opinion about everything, barely said anything at
all in this one -- just what you'd expect, in a fantasy from someone who
doesn't know much of anything about him. He's practically a non-entity
(I had to go back and watch the battle where the team is captured about
four times before I even spotted him, he's such a complete background
figure). All Felger would know is that the rest of SG-1 spent a few months
not liking him much, and that they tend to snark at and about him; none
of them had been exactly subtle about it. I'm not happy with the "why
aren't you smiling?" line, but have to believe that Jonas came back from
Descent and told someone what Jack said to him, in his standard failure
to understand American cultural norms. Also, Jonas goes from not having
any clue why they're there ("So what now? Shouldn't we escape?" and being
honestly puzzled when Jack says to just wait) to being completely in the
know about the plan, down to explaining to Felger and Coombs why Khonsu
couldn't get the information to the SGC directly. Felger was rewriting
the story as he went along.
- Set design.
- Something I got from a friend: there was a Klingon weapon hanging over
Khonsu's "throne" (I can't confirm this personally, since I was never
that much into the detail side of the fandom, but this friend is as obsessive
about Trek as I am about SG, and I trust him on this). The SG effects
people would never make a mistake like that; they're proud of not being
Star Trek, of coming up with different things. But Felger, trapped with
a Trekkie in a lab all day (and apparently not an SF fan himself, per
se), might very well have just plunked in something "alien" he'd seen
as a result of being around Coombs.
- Khonsu as a Tok'ra.
- The Tok'ra never go in at such high ranks; they go undercover as very
minor Goa'uld in various service, so they can move around without being
noticed all that much. A Tok'ra as one of Anubis' lieutenants? Not bloody
likely. Certainly not without some sort of explanation. That would make
him a player in Goa'uld politics at Zipacna's or Osiris' level.
- Characterization.
- Slightly off-kilter behavior from everyone, getting more pronounced
as the ep went on. Particularly Jack (whom Felger hero-worshipped most
and was least likely to actually know personally, given the way he avoids
scientists): using hockey as his sports reference, which he's never done
before (he uses curling and occasionally football or golf, not hockey);
his perfect timing on the "wait for the minion of evil" thing; his absolutely
OTT, oh-so-heroic attack on the roomful of Jaffa, who badly outnumbered
his team, rather than waiting for a decent opportunity to make a break
for it; his pose in front of the stargate to taunt the Jaffa (no way in
hell -- Jack may love to stick it to the Jaffa, but no way would
he stand there, completely still, and make such a perfect target of himself,
when a horde of Jaffa were chasing him with live weapons.); etc. Just
-- too many little things, all adding up to a hero-worshipper's view of
perfect!snarky!hero!Jack.
- Jack and Teal'c take out the masses of Jaffa trapping Coombs in grand
action-hero sound effects. That whole thing felt like a cartoon (as did
the fight around the stargate, to a slightly lesser degree). Felger didn't
know how they were going to be able to save Coombs, but they're His Heroes,
and they never leave anyone behind, so, voila, a few sound effects and
Coombs is saved!
- Other fantasy eps.
- The SG PTB have always been really good about giving "in" and "out"
points to fantasy experiences (the gun dropping in FIAD, the flashes in
Absolute Power...), and there was no "in" point in this ep, just an "out"
point (Felger being poked), so I'm sticking with the entire thing being
a fantasy.
I just can't find any way to justify the bizarre ring crystals, or the air
vents (seriously, those were the worst thing ever!), or Jack deliberately
making a target of himself for no better reason than to thumb his nose at someone,
or any of the rest of it. So that's my reasoning.
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- Where did the humanoid Replicators
find a white, male template to use to base themselves on? Reese was black
and female, and their only basis for making themselves human.
- Time-dilation bubble extends 0.16 lightyears -- how in god's name did the
X-303 escape its effects? It would form a sphere
with a radius of about 939 billion miles (in comparison, the average
distance of Pluto from the sun is about 4 billion miles). (Note to science
types who write to me to explain this: I won't understand a word. <g>
I'm a Physics for Poets type; I like the concepts, but I can't do the math.
But if you can give me a clear explanation, in layman's terms, that I can
put up here, I'll add it.)
- The speeded-up bubble was functioning at a factor of 10 squared, which as
Sam explains, means one hour takes four days (more or less; four days is 96
hours, just under the correct duration of 100 hours). She later suggests the
Replicators have been on the planet for hundreds of years, local time. This
is very unlikely, since just over a year (380 days) in normal realtime would
have to pass for 100 years of speeded-up local time to pass, given the speed
factor of 10-squared, and from things the Asgard say in the episode, it seems
more likely that only weeks, or possibly months, have passed in normal realtime.
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- Where did Maybourne get hold of all the grenades he was using?
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- If each season is a calendar year, "Disclosure" happened more or less in
fall 2002. Major Davis said Daniel Jackson
unlocked the stargate "eight years ago" -- which would be late 1994. This
fits perfectly with movie canon, but slightly screws up show canon; in the
show, Daniel is brough back from Abydos in early 1997, where he'd been for
"more than a year", but not yet two years -- so the earliest he could have
gone there is mid-1995.
- Kinsey has completely snapped, or something.
- No US politician would ever insult the US military in front of allies
or anyone else, and certainly not in a situation where the military was
sitting right there to hear it, and the conversation was about clear and
present threats to safety.
- No US politician with a speck of political savvy -- which the chairman
of the Senate Appropriateions Committee has to have -- would ever
air dirty family laundry in public; he'd present a united face to outsiders
no matter how much he hated Hammond et al.
- No US senator would be stupid enough to switch Senate committees at
a time when he's fully expecting to be named, any day now, as either vice-presidential
or, he hopes, presidential candidate for his party -- Kinsey clearly does
expect that, given the events of "Smoke & Mirrors". If he gets the nomination
he expects, he'll be campaigning full time, and staying on a committee,
while allowed, would make him look less than committed to the presidency
(or even worse, give the impression that he expects to lose, so is hedging
his bets). So actively switching committees at such a point is lunacy,
unless he's withdrawn completely from the presidential race. If he hasn't,
and if he wins (as he clearly expected to in Smoke & Mirrors), he'll have
the power of presidential directive to change the way the SGC functions,
and who it reports to. He won't need the NID, he'll have all the power
himself.
- No one hoping to become president would go out of his way to antagonize
the military, of which he's hoping to soon be commander-in-chief,
so badly.
- Basically, not a single one of his actions in this episode make any
remote sense, either realistically in terms of what a senator in his position
would do, or in terms of his character as its been written so far. This
man was an utter, certifiable, lunatic.
- The ambassadors ask if it's possible to negotiate with the Goa'uld; Davis
replies that it's not, because the Goa'uld "don't negotiate". But Earth is
already technically under treaty protection, after the Asgard
negotiated it for us in 1999. (It's true that Anubis
shows no sign that he feels bound by that treaty, or that he wants to negotiate
another, but we have been under treaty protection for years at this
point.)
- A meeting of such importance should/would have had higher-ranking participants;
the ambassadors were all proxy heads of state, and it was pretty much insulting
not to have included at least a member of the joint chiefs of staff, and someone
higher ranked in the executive branch of the government. A major, a major-general,
and a senator doesn't really cut it for something of this magnitude. Likewise,
there should have been a higher-ranked Russian representative -- at least
the Russian ambassador to the US, to provide someone of equal rank to the
other ambassadors present. (Even though Chekhov did a fantastic job, this
whole meeting seemed sadly lacking in diplomatic protocol.)
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- In Metamorphosis, Sergei is
frowned upon for bringing a refugee back through the gate to earth without
prior permission; in Forsaken, Jack decides to bring all of the refugees
back (without checking with Hammond first), and when Corso refuses to leave
his ship, he sends Reynard back for medical attention, again without checking
with Hammond.
- -- Possible spackling: It could be that Jack's SGC status is high enough
that his approval counts as clearance, so he's the only SG leader that
doesn't need to talk to Hammond specifically about bringing people back
through the gate before he does it.
- Corso asks Sam what "Samantha" means; she replies "that my father wanted
a boy". Either Sam's the eldest child, or the writer forgot about her brother
Mark (Cold Lazarus, Seth). (Personal opinion: Given Damian Kindler's
track record to date, I'm guessing he forgot, or never bothered to find out,
about Mark.)
- Language: While I'm used to other races/species speaking English, and am
perfectly willing to pretend that it's supposed to be translations, really,
because they just don't have time to show us the tedium of translating everything,
the language in this one bothered me. Most of it was fine, but Reynaud, speaking
with Jonas on the base, used too many modern American casual-use terms; things
like "fall for the guy who saved my life" -- it should have been "the man"
and possibly "become attracted to" or "fall in love with";
"I thought you were cute way before I got shot" -- should have been "attractive"
or "good-looking" or "handsome" or "pretty", and it should have been "long
before"; "okay" -- it may be a fairly ubiquitous word on Earth, but I doubt
it's spread across the entire galaxy just yet.
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- According to SG-1's report, Bra'tac was
the only Jaffa whose symbiote was left untouched; but also according to their
report, Teal'c saved them both by sharing Junior
back and forth.
- New strain of tretonin:
- How long do its effects last?
- Can Teal'c be offworld for extended periods without it?
- What if he gets captured?
- How much of it do they have available, and is it possible to synthesize
without actually using symbiotes?
- If not, where are the Tok'ra getting the symbiotes to use?
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- Hyperdrive buffer:
- Why would the SGC have sent the Prometheus out with a critical system
(the hyperdrive's buffer) that was impossible to repair or replace from
ship's stores, even by cannibalizing the rest of the ship? This is ridiculous;
they've had nothing but problems with the hyperdrive system since they
started experimenting with it, and to leave the ship that vulnerable to
being stranded or, worse, blown up, makes no sense at all. (If Sam hadn't
been on board, the person in charge of the hyperdrive system would probably
have just bypassed it -- she sincerely suggested doing so -- which would
have either gotten them even more lost because they couldn't control the
energy from the naquadria, or possibly even pushed the naquadria reactor
into going critical, killing them all. Even the tiny hop that Sam approved
pushed the reactor into critical, and they had to dump it immediately.)
- Prometheus crew:
- During a battle drill, Ronson addresses the other male command-crew
member as "weapons officer"; later, when they're actually under attack
by missiles, he calls out for weapons to be armed, and Major Gant, the
female member, replies that weapons control is down.
- Where did the transport rings come from?
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- Why did Hammond wait so long to open the iris? Teams expect that as soon
as they send their code, the iris will be opened and they can go through immediately.
By waiting as long as he did, Hammond risked the deaths of SG-1 and SG-15.
He should either have opened it immediately, or not at all.
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- Why would the Goa'uld have broken up the six Eyes in the first place? It
seems more likely that whoever had original control would have maintained
it, and secured him/herself a ruling position, unchallenged.
- Why would Oma Desala bother reburying the stargate on Abydos after SG-1
left? (Skaara said it would be there only long enough for SG-1 to return home,
and that blast, while powerful, wasn't enough to destroy a stargate, so it
was likely buried.) There would be no particular reason to return to Abydos
with everyone dead (nb: this is an assumption -- it's remotely possible
that those hiding in the caves survived, but I doubt it), but no particular
reason to ensure that no one could, either. The only explanation I can think
of is that she didn't want to leave any evidence that she had tampered there
at all, but unburying a stargate seems to be much less damning proof of intervention
than having ascended everyone in sight.
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